1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:04,580 [Music] 2 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:04,650 [Applause] 3 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,550 [Music] 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:09,040 [Applause] 5 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:19,900 [Music] 6 00:00:38,689 --> 00:00:32,569 I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging 7 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:38,699 out with me you may have seen some 8 00:00:44,060 --> 00:00:40,920 things in the news lately about strange 9 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:44,070 metals and mysterious material that just 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:46,079 might be from extraterrestrial 11 00:00:49,819 --> 00:00:47,010 spacecraft 12 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:49,829 today I'll spend some time walking you 13 00:00:53,509 --> 00:00:51,390 through what's going on in this arena 14 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,519 I'll share some of my personal 15 00:00:58,219 --> 00:00:55,680 experience with this type of thing and 16 00:01:12,100 --> 00:00:58,229 you bet all over my personal opinion 17 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,190 so on August 14th to the Stars Academy 18 00:01:19,970 --> 00:01:18,000 of Arts and Sciences published a video 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:19,980 to its YouTube channel showing the 20 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:22,050 organization's effort to collect and 21 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:25,500 analyze alien material material that 22 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:28,650 could prove to be from mundane earth 23 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:32,100 objects or just possibly could be from 24 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:35,400 something extraterrestrial the video is 25 00:01:40,219 --> 00:01:35,880 titled 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:40,229 the atom research project begins the 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:42,210 atom research project which is an 28 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:44,610 acronym for acquisition and data 29 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:48,030 analysis of materials was announced by 30 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:52,320 titi si on July 26th the organization 31 00:01:57,710 --> 00:01:55,110 describes this project as quote an 32 00:02:00,050 --> 00:01:57,720 academic research program focused on 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:00,060 exotic materials for technology 34 00:02:06,859 --> 00:02:04,050 innovation in quote TC sa asserts that 35 00:02:09,590 --> 00:02:06,869 quote from time to time various sources 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:09,600 have collected material samples reported 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:11,610 to have come from advanced aerospace 38 00:02:17,420 --> 00:02:14,730 vehicles of unknown origin popularly 39 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:17,430 known as ua p unidentified aerial 40 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:21,780 phenomena or UFO in quote an atom 41 00:02:26,509 --> 00:02:24,300 research project aims to quote subject 42 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:26,519 these materials to detailed and rigorous 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:28,800 scientific evaluation whenever feasible 44 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:31,290 unquote this is being achieved through a 45 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:33,420 contract with earth tech international a 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:35,489 privately funded research organization 47 00:02:38,870 --> 00:02:36,450 in Austin Texas 48 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:38,880 founded by T TSA vice-president of 49 00:02:43,940 --> 00:02:41,160 science and technology dr. Hal put off 50 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:43,950 the recently released video feels like a 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:46,739 teaser trailer and that's not by 52 00:02:52,729 --> 00:02:50,370 accident an integral component of TT si 53 00:02:54,590 --> 00:02:52,739 is its entertainment division which has 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:54,600 several feature films and scripted 55 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:57,090 series in the works after watching this 56 00:03:02,030 --> 00:02:59,760 video about the atom research project my 57 00:03:05,660 --> 00:03:02,040 guess is that there's a video series a 58 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:05,670 television show or a documentary focused 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:09,120 on the work associated with atom and not 60 00:03:12,770 --> 00:03:12,330 gonna lie whatever it is I'm excited for 61 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:12,780 it 62 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:17,430 if you followed the news that broke in 63 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:19,409 December of 2017 about the Pentagon's 64 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:21,930 official UFO program you may have read 65 00:03:25,429 --> 00:03:24,120 about how Robert Bigelow a private space 66 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:25,439 pioneer with whom the Pentagon 67 00:03:29,119 --> 00:03:27,150 contracted for its official program 68 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:29,129 modified buildings at Bigelow Aerospace 69 00:03:35,539 --> 00:03:33,599 in Las Vegas to house alien materials so 70 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:35,549 we've seen a lot of conversation lately 71 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:37,260 about supposed extraterrestrial 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:40,230 artifacts the biggest question I always 73 00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:43,650 have and you should have too when it 74 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:45,420 comes to claims of possession of UFO 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:48,540 artifacts is about the provenance of 76 00:03:52,610 --> 00:03:50,730 these objects where do they come from 77 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:52,620 what is the credibility of the 78 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,870 individuals who quote-unquote owned 79 00:03:59,119 --> 00:03:57,120 these alleged fragments of alien 80 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:59,129 spaceships I can't tell you how many 81 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:01,439 times we had people show up at our 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:03,720 office when I worked at UFO media 83 00:04:09,559 --> 00:04:05,970 company open lines claiming to have 84 00:04:10,899 --> 00:04:09,569 pieces of alien spacecraft I don't 85 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:10,909 remember how many times that happened 86 00:04:17,330 --> 00:04:14,220 but it certainly happened more times 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:17,340 than I thought it would at open minds we 88 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:19,650 facilitated the testing of some of the 89 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:22,860 alleged UFO material but the results 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:24,740 always turned out to be mundane or 91 00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:30,330 inconclusive it can be incredibly 92 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:31,949 difficult to remain objective and 93 00:04:35,540 --> 00:04:33,990 level-headed when it comes to material 94 00:04:37,070 --> 00:04:35,550 that is supposedly from an alien 95 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:37,080 spacecraft right 96 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,020 I mean how incredible would that be it's 97 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:42,720 thrilling and pretty undescribable how 98 00:04:46,939 --> 00:04:44,280 you feel when you're dealing with 99 00:04:49,339 --> 00:04:46,949 something that might be from an 100 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:49,349 extraterrestrial civilization it's also 101 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:52,080 interesting to note that sometimes the 102 00:04:57,290 --> 00:04:53,510 people who get the most excited about 103 00:04:59,659 --> 00:04:57,300 testing alleged UFO material are the 104 00:05:02,629 --> 00:04:59,669 same people who firmly believe that UFOs 105 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:02,639 aren't physical objects but instead of 106 00:05:06,939 --> 00:05:04,500 something intangible like a mental 107 00:05:11,149 --> 00:05:06,949 projection interdimensional creatures 108 00:05:13,339 --> 00:05:11,159 etc I find that fascinating but in the 109 00:05:16,010 --> 00:05:13,349 end if through the scientific testing an 110 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:16,020 object is determined to be anomalous or 111 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:18,150 likely to have been manufactured off 112 00:05:24,610 --> 00:05:21,840 planet what does that do where does that 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:24,620 leave us in our UFO exploration 114 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:27,650 is it getting wool vermin does it 115 00:05:32,340 --> 00:05:30,320 vindicate and validate everything that 116 00:05:35,170 --> 00:05:32,350 UFO believers have suspected for years 117 00:05:38,890 --> 00:05:35,180 does it prove that extraterrestrials are 118 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:38,900 visiting our planet with such results be 119 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:40,970 the disclosure that so many people are 120 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:45,050 waiting for well the realistic and 121 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:50,300 perhaps disappointing answer is no now 122 00:05:56,620 --> 00:05:52,850 go ahead and yell at me and call me Adi 123 00:05:58,900 --> 00:05:56,630 bunker or better yet Akram uh Gian but I 124 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,910 promise I'm not trying to be a downer 125 00:06:03,210 --> 00:06:01,280 and I'm sorry if what I think burst your 126 00:06:05,770 --> 00:06:03,220 balloon this that's not my intent 127 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:05,780 again this is just my opinion and I'm 128 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:07,910 trying to keep my personal desires and 129 00:06:13,210 --> 00:06:10,850 excitement in check because as a 130 00:06:15,730 --> 00:06:13,220 researcher and journalist that's my 131 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:15,740 responsibility here's why I don't think 132 00:06:20,650 --> 00:06:18,289 the results of the material testing no 133 00:06:23,950 --> 00:06:20,660 matter how incredible they are we'll 134 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:23,960 have much of an effect first the 135 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:26,510 scientific results of any research are 136 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:29,810 always debated it's even worse when that 137 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:33,520 research is associated with UFOs and/or 138 00:06:39,940 --> 00:06:37,370 extraterrestrials second just because 139 00:06:41,950 --> 00:06:39,950 one scientist at one lab concludes that 140 00:06:44,350 --> 00:06:41,960 something is weird and displays 141 00:06:47,020 --> 00:06:44,360 properties suggesting that it must be 142 00:06:50,140 --> 00:06:47,030 from another world that's just one 143 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:50,150 opinion not all scientists have the same 144 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:52,130 life experiences or specialized 145 00:07:00,189 --> 00:06:56,479 knowledge third we live in a strange 146 00:07:03,129 --> 00:07:00,199 time people don't really care or fully 147 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:03,139 appreciate major news just look at the 148 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:04,880 reaction to the New York Times story in 149 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:06,830 December of 2017 about the Pentagon's 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:09,590 UFO program it made headlines for a 151 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:11,770 short while people thought it was neat 152 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:16,270 then people moved on and finally fourth 153 00:07:21,730 --> 00:07:20,240 we've seen it before we've seen strange 154 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:21,740 materials subjected to scientific 155 00:07:27,370 --> 00:07:24,260 testing where the results suggest that 156 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:27,380 the object was manufactured in space or 157 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:30,020 somewhere off earth I'm thinking 158 00:07:33,820 --> 00:07:31,610 specifically about some of the material 159 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:33,830 collected by geologist Frank Imbler at 160 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:35,330 the debris field from the alleged 161 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:35,940 Roswell 162 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:39,000 UFO crash and then there are the alleged 163 00:07:44,690 --> 00:07:42,170 alien implants removed by dr. Roger Leir 164 00:07:46,970 --> 00:07:44,700 then there are several examples from 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:46,980 mainstream scientists who have published 166 00:07:52,250 --> 00:07:49,610 research alleging proof of microbial 167 00:07:53,780 --> 00:07:52,260 extraterrestrial life my cautionary 168 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:53,790 advice to anyone following this 169 00:08:01,220 --> 00:07:57,110 fascinating saga is to remain calm 170 00:08:04,190 --> 00:08:01,230 objective and enjoy the ride no matter 171 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:04,200 what the outcome I think it's fantastic 172 00:08:08,630 --> 00:08:06,810 and incredibly important that there are 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:08,640 people willing to invest the time and 174 00:08:14,810 --> 00:08:11,490 money into scientifically testing 175 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:14,820 material that might be from a UFO there 176 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:16,410 are many people who are frustrated by 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:18,060 the expenditure of money on things like 178 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:19,890 the study program which is known 179 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:21,510 predominantly for its use of radio 180 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:23,550 telescopes to listen for signals from 181 00:08:27,710 --> 00:08:25,370 extraterrestrial civilizations I 182 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:27,720 disagree with those people I always 183 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:29,820 think it's worthwhile to approach the 184 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:33,570 UFO et mystery from all angles that 185 00:08:38,270 --> 00:08:36,200 includes listening for alien signals and 186 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:38,280 testing possible materials from 187 00:08:45,770 --> 00:08:43,080 extraterrestrial spacecraft but again be 188 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:45,780 cautious and accept results of any 189 00:08:51,770 --> 00:08:48,330 testing that claim extraordinary things 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:51,780 for what they are more results that 191 00:08:58,190 --> 00:08:55,290 suggest possibilities to us scientific 192 00:09:02,180 --> 00:08:58,200 tests with anomalous results suggesting 193 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:02,190 otherworldly origin are exciting but 194 00:09:06,860 --> 00:09:05,370 they don't prove conclusively that our 195 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:06,870 planet is being visited by 196 00:09:11,630 --> 00:09:09,660 extraterrestrials and spaceships it 197 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:11,640 still comes down to belief it's up to 198 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:14,160 you a believing the results of the 199 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:16,830 testing and B believing that 200 00:09:21,140 --> 00:09:18,720 extraterrestrial origin is the only 201 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:21,150 possible explanation for such results 202 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,350 also keep in mind that if and when we do 203 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,160 have conclusive proof of manufactured 204 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:31,440 extraterrestrial material that's not the 205 00:09:38,090 --> 00:09:35,490 end of UFO study on the contrary that 206 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,100 will just be the beginning just when it 207 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:40,560 starts getting exciting there are plenty 208 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:42,600 of people who will breathe a sigh of 209 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:46,200 relief and feel validated and vindicated 210 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:48,180 such an announcement feeling that 211 00:09:52,670 --> 00:09:49,710 scientific proof of something 212 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:52,680 manufactured offworld proves everything 213 00:09:58,540 --> 00:09:56,070 they've always believed I understand 214 00:10:01,340 --> 00:09:58,550 that mindset but a piece of 215 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:01,350 extraterrestrial material doesn't prove 216 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:04,950 that aliens are currently visiting us it 217 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:06,080 doesn't prove that extraterrestrials 218 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:09,930 have visited our planet for centuries it 219 00:10:12,890 --> 00:10:11,610 doesn't prove that extraterrestrials 220 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:12,900 abduct 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:15,960 and it doesn't prove that the government 222 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:18,650 knows more about UFOs than they tell us 223 00:10:23,870 --> 00:10:21,030 it can bolster our belief in these 224 00:10:26,630 --> 00:10:23,880 things serving is added supporting 225 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:26,640 material and that's awesome more is 226 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:30,170 always better but that's what it does 227 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:33,390 testing that suggests material came from 228 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:36,560 a fabricated extraterrestrial spacecraft 229 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:40,050 isn't GAMEOVER it doesn't answer all the 230 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:43,440 questions or offer final proof of any of 231 00:10:50,990 --> 00:10:46,590 our questions in fact it just makes the 232 00:10:53,780 --> 00:10:51,000 mystery even bigger these are crazy 233 00:10:56,450 --> 00:10:53,790 exciting times and it's so easy to get 234 00:10:59,720 --> 00:10:56,460 worked up jump to conclusions and read 235 00:11:02,630 --> 00:10:59,730 way too much into things because then 236 00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:02,640 what you wanting them to be we all have 237 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:04,680 to make up our own minds and decide for 238 00:11:10,730 --> 00:11:07,260 ourselves what to make of such grand 239 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:10,740 claims when they come and how to handle 240 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:12,570 the news when things don't turn out the 241 00:11:18,190 --> 00:11:15,360 way we hope they would I just urge you 242 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,200 to try really hard and remain objective 243 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:20,880 take the information as it comes and 244 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:23,850 decide for yourself what you want to do 245 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:25,090 with that information 246 00:11:29,580 --> 00:11:27,270 [Music] 247 00:11:31,650 --> 00:11:29,590 that's all for this episode of unknown 248 00:11:33,690 --> 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